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Elissa456
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posted: 10/7/2003 at 3:34:11 PM ET
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Why does Bernadette's husband always have a cane? Is he ok?

Christine-NYC
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posted: 10/7/2003 at 3:39:18 PM ET
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I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think that is a very appropriate question. This message board is about Bernadette, not her husband. Being that he is not an actor or someone who lives his life in the public eye I think we should respect his privacy; even if some people do know why he uses the cane.

<3CMH<3

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 4:44:37 PM ET
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I don't think it is an inappropriate question. It is just a question. Something someone is curious about. And if you marry a celebrity and are in pictures and make public appearances with them then you open up a certain amount of your life. There are many celebrities who's spouses you never see in photos, etc. Because obviously that person does not want to be a part of their spouse's public life. Michael does not appear to have that problem. He certainly does not shy away from cameras.

If I saw someone else with a cane, I might naturally wonder why they have it - is it for fashion, for stability, etc.? If I used a cane and my reason was not physically obvious, I don't think I would be insulted if someone asked me why I used it. If my reason was really that private, I would just tell them so. Michael seems to be fairly easy going and enjoys being Mr. Bernadette Peters to an extent. He likes her career and I think enjoys being on the inside of it. At Bernadette's R&H CD signing he got into a big conversation with a couple of my friends about how they were going to try to learn to sail that summer but Bernadette had to learn how to swim first, and stuff like that. These are not intimate details of their life he was sharing. Just little tidbits.

I know Bernadette values her privacy and I'm sure the privacy of her family members but I think sometimes we get a little too sensitive about protecting her. She knows what kind of profession she is in. This is not a question along the lines of "Do you think Michael and Bernadette have a good sex life?" or something. Now that is an inappropriate question whether it is of Bernadette or any non-celebrity. And I don't think anyone is asking for the absolute truth whether or not Michael wants it disclosed. I think she is just asking if anyone does know or has a theory as to why he often has a cane.

In answer to Elissa's question. Someone once said, I believe on this site, that they thought he sustained some sort of injury a few years back and uses a cane from time to time (there are times when he does not have it).

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 5:13:34 PM ET
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I think sometimes people feel as though they have a RIGHT to know things, but if anyone questioned their personal affairs, they'd get very aggitated about it. Maybe people just need to keep that in mind at times. There's something to be said for the whole "Do unto others..." thing.

**Kristen**

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I really think that people are overreacting here.. moljul, i couldn't agree with you more..in fact, i agree with everything you have always said on this board..elissa was asking an honest question...surely i dont think she is, or was trying to invading bernadette's privacy in anyway at all..lighten up

BroadwayBaby123
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Geez...people get so uptight around here sometimes. Whomever said that Bernadette knows what profession she is in and what comes with the territory is absolutely right. It should not be our personal mission to try and protect her from the prying eyes of the public. She's a celebrity. Her career is BUILT on people admiring her and being interested in her.

Now, as far as this cane issue goes...I think it's a totally appropriate question. A year ago when I broke my foot and had to use crutches, I didn't break down and start crying when someone would ask me what happened! Actually, I kind of liked it when people took an interest, because it showed that they cared enough to be concerned.

The only time I don't think it's okay to ask a medical-related question is when you see someone taking a prescription pill. That is definitely none of your business. But a cane? Come on, I doubt it's some uber-sensitive secret subject that no one is supposed to know about. It's just a CANE!

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 10:05:39 PM ET
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Michael seems to be fairly easy going and enjoys being Mr. Bernadette Peters to an extent.
He is a very nice person (I have met and spoken with him a few times), but he is certainly no "Mr. Bernadette Peters." He is very well known and successful in his line of work.

I should have known you would have disagreed with whatever I would have said Moljul, but a simple 2 or 3 line reason why would have sufficed. Again you mention that your friends had this "Big" conversation with him at the signing. Not to accuse you of being wrong, because I'm sure they did stop and talk with him for a second, but I was there (in the VIP section) the entire time...most of that time Michael was talking to my friends and I, Bernadette's Publicist, Bernadette's Producer, and a couple of other people that could be considered part of Bernadette's "Enterage." I didn't really see him talking to Bernadette's fans.
Not that this has anything to do with the cane question anyway. I don't think I'm being uptight in thinking that people deserve respect and privacy. I could understand if it were Bernadette using a cane, but not her husband.

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 10:08:01 PM ET
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Ok, ok. Let's not go down this road, please. We've kind of strayed from the original intent of the question now.

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Christine-NYC
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posted: 10/7/2003 at 10:26:40 PM ET
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Sorry Kevin Didn't mean to get off topic.

http://www.bernadette-peters.com/cgi-bin/pmessage.pl?action=read&fid=achat&mid=8949

Bernadette used to put quite personal things in her bio and they were in Playbills. Now she has so much work and awards to credit and she's at a point in her fame where her personal life is very important to keep personal.
So very true!

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 10:37:43 PM ET
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He has a cane?

I must be selectively oblivious. Bernadette colors her hair and trims it, and I notice. Her husband utilizes a cane (and it's not like I've never seen pictures of them together) and I have no idea what's going on.

Maybe it's just that I'm too busy looking at the smile on his face to notice anything else. In every picture I see of him he looks so happy, and very much in love. :-D

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posted: 10/7/2003 at 10:39:31 PM ET
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Thanks for understanding. We (as a group) never seem to all agree on what's private and what's not and I figured that's where the thread was going.

I want to dodge that question again I was wondering, though... didn't she say he was using one on TV once?

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posted: 10/8/2003 at 12:25:38 AM ET
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I'm sorry for this Kevin, but I don't understand why some people on this board are considered authorities on Bernadette and some are assumed not to know any inside information. UCFGuardGirl just recently got what seems to be a really cool job and has a lot of insider information to the entertainment industry and she very nicely shares the info with us. She does it in a non-threatening, non-bragging manner and I appreciate it. And I never accuse her of making up things or lying. No one even knows me (I could be Patty for God's sake) but I have never misrepresented myself (I am not Patty, I was simply trying to make a point) or acted like I was Bernadette's best friend. And I don't think anyone on this board should be made to feel like I (and others) are sometimes meant to feel by these types of responses.

"Again you mention that your friends had this "Big" conversation with him at the signing. Not to accuse you of being wrong, because I'm sure they did stop and talk with him for a second, but I was there (in the VIP section) the entire time...most of that time Michael was talking to my friends and I, Bernadette's Publicist, Bernadette's Producer, and a couple of other people that could be considered part of Bernadette's "Enterage." I didn't really see him talking to Bernadette's fans."

And once again I really don't like to be accused of lying. My friends also know Bernadette quite well. Just because you don't know who I am talking about doesn't mean they do not know her or have the same access to her that you do. In fact, since I have never mentioned their names, how do you know you have never met them? Lots of people in this world have a connection to her. If you were in the area, you more than likely saw my friends. I do not question that you were in the area, why would you question if my friends were in the area. Are you lying? What proof do you offer that you were in the VIP area? Absolutely none because I'm assuming you are not lying and I know for a fact that certain fans get to know Bernadette well and she is very generous about recognizing them and sometimes allowing them in restricted areas. My friends and I have been able to be a part of a few fun things (backstage at the concerts, the closing night party on Bernadette's last night in AGYG, etc.). I don't pretend that I do this because I am her best friend or have great connections. Bernadette simply recognizes good loyal fans.

And I really wasn't aware there were word or sentence limits on our responses. I often write long winded responses and so do others. It's just my style. Who cares. I had something to say and said it the way I wanted to.

I will clarify that I didn't mean "big" in a literally way. Probably not the best word to use. Just that they were hanging around the area and got to talking with him. (Once again because Bernadette and Patty know them quite well just as I assume they know you quite well) They said he was very easy and open and was very chatty. And that is what he chatted about. I was simply trying to make a point that Michael seems like a nice, easy-going guy. I was not bragging.

By stating he somewhat liked being Mr. Bernadette Peters, I did not mean to imply that he did not have a successful life unto himself. Only that he enjoys her celebrity status and being a part of it. He gets to do lots of things and meet lots of different people because he is Bernadette's husband. He wouldn't have access to them if he wasn't. And he appears to think it is all pretty cool. Wouldn't just about anyone?

Once again, a lot of sensitivity for no reason.

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    I'm sorry for this Kevin, but I don't understand why some people on this board are considered authorities on Bernadette and some are assumed not to know any inside information...Once again, a lot of sensitivity for no reason.
I don't understand why it even has to be an issue of "inside information". Why can't people just appreciate what is and not worry about "inside infomation" until it becomes outside information?...Also, at times certain people are very condescending to the point where they make others, myself included, not want to post because they don't want to read a novel about a minute detail that isn't even important. And it's not very open-minded to mention the sensitivity of the issue and how it was over nothing. I'm glad that only ONE person's opinion is considered referring to the importance of the matter. That whole statement is contradictory to other ideals that are supposedly posessed. If there's no limits on sentences and responses, then why is there a limit on who gets to decide what's sensitive and if it was"over nothing" or not? And by the way, some people on the board do know who you and your friends are, and the lengths that you've gone to in order to get into these restricted events. That's all I've got to say. I hope that we can go on posting without problems.


**Kristen**

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posted: 10/8/2003 at 1:24:41 AM ET
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I do apologize for my long winded responses. I'm not trying to be annoying. As I stated before its just my style. I write e-mails and even general letters in the same way. Hard habit to break. Probably best to just skim my responses or just skip them if you aren't into details.

There. That was too long was it?


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Hmm.... interesting responses all.

First, thank you Moljul, for the compliment. I wouldn't necessarily say I have insider information (ha! lol), but I do meet a lot of children's authors. Also, it is kind of neat that now celebrities are writing books. So I get info, sometimes. (Did you know Mariah Carey is penning her bio? She's shopping it now to prospective houses. God help us all.)

Beyond this... maybe it's just me, but I don't see how having "insider" info or not having it, knowing Bernadette or not knowing her, having met her or not having met her, etc... is all that important. I mean, who really cares? We all still have access to the same CDs, the same movies. We all still watch the same show when we go to the theatre. Isn't that why we feel this way? Isn't that what makes Bernadette Peters... well, Bernadette Peters? Because she's so talented and we love her work? (Not because she's so totally cool to hang out with and we want to kick and shove each other for the opportunity to invite her over and braid her hair and make smores.)

So... None of us at this board is more important than anyone else, and nobody's opinion is more valid than anyone else's. We're all just fans -- which makes us outsiders in general, if you think about it -- no matter how many times we have or have not met Bernadette Peters in passing. And beyond that, Bernadette Peters is JUST A PERSON.

For instance, I have a cousin who has her own TV show. So what? She's just another person. Knowing her, or being related to her, doesn't make my life any more special than anyone else's. It also doesn't mean that I automatically know a lot of insider information, because I've got news for you, the REAL insider information is known only to the performers, their assistants, and whoever does up the legal paperwork. Usually, they (the performers) can't talk about their upcoming projects, vacations, etc to anyone -- not even friends. That's part of a legal contract they're bound to by their agents, like authors have about upcoming manuscripts and book tours. If you REALLY want to get insider information, find yourself an intern from Judy Katz' publicity agency who processes all the legal paperwork. They probably know more than all of us combined, and they don't know any of the actors represented!

Anyhow.

Yes, I'm a fan, and yes, I love to listen to Bernadette sing and perform... but if I never get backstage at a show, I'm not going to cry about it. I'll take a picture at the stage door on the 16th (if I'm allowed) and that will make me happy. The rest of the magic I leave to the stage. What's important to me is sitting in the theatre, listening to her sing, watching her work her mojo -- not "how-can-I-get-backstage-what-can-I-do-to-meet-her?" Life is too short to fret about never having met someone. I know plenty of great people who aren't Bernadette Peters, and I wouldn't give a single one of them up for her.

And that's the truth of it, from my end. Your mileage may vary.

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Bernadette: Um.. it sort of grew out of my head like this.

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posted: 10/8/2003 at 1:50:45 PM ET
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To clarify (because I think there was some concern, and I wouldn't want to offend anyone with my last post) the post wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Also, what I meant by the intern comment was NOT that I know lots of stuff about interning in the industry, but basically that we can all make "connections." That there are people who you would never think of to ask who know things, and people who you would think of to ask who might not know as much. I'm not saying you should actually go and ASK or SEEK OUT people(I don't believe in invading the privacy of others), but I'm saying that everyone has the ability to network and make connections, and make themselves knowledgable, so it's not like someone who "knows" something has done anything the rest of us aren't capable of. Like I said, nobody is better than anyone else.

By the second part of my post, I just meant that we come here because we love Bernadette for her work, not because we want bragging rights to knowing a celebrity, or bragging rights to knowing as much personal info as we can about a celebrity. What does it matter if her husband uses a cane? Not knowing every little tidbit about her isn't going to make us person any less of a fan. We're all here for the same reason; we go to see Gypsy for the sheer joy of those 2 hours in the theatre, not because we're desperate to go backstage afterwards. That shouldn't be what it's about. At least, it isn't for me. But I can't speak for everyone.

So if I have offended anyone with either of my posts, or if my posts were misunderstood, I apologize.

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Bernadette: Um.. it sort of grew out of my head like this.

-- Live with Regis

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