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80.181.187.x | posted: 7/26/2004 at 1:20:57 PM ET
When Bernadette left did they have another actress play Annie or was that when the show closed?
|  moljul
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| posted: 7/26/2004 at 1:32:10 PM ET
Several actresses played the role after Bernadette left the show and I saw them all. First there was Cheryl Ladd. She had a pleasant of enough voice, better than I expected but her acting skills and stage presence were not overwhelming. Next was Reba McIntyre. She was the most successful of the replacements and even garnered, some would say, more favorable reviews than Bernadette. While I do agree she was the best of the replacements and had the most stage presence, I found her acting to be very amateurish. She made no connection to the character, she was just playing herself. She was only able to play the role for about 6 months but did very good business while she was in it - very comparable to the ticket sales of Bernadette. After Reba came Crystal Bernard. She was by far the worst. I went to see Crystal and Tom Wopat (who returned to the role when Crystal took over Annie). Tom was out that night and I left at intermission. The show stayed open almost exactly 1 year after Bernadette left.
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| posted: 7/26/2004 at 3:06:04 PM ET
Susan Lucci also played Annie Oakley while Bernadette took a vacation at one point. lol But I try to forget that.
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| moljul
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| posted: 7/26/2004 at 3:08:39 PM ET
Yes, its best that everyone forgets about Susan Lucci playing Annie.  
| futuremamarose87
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when i rented Annie Get Your Gun on DVD Susan Lucci did a beginning intro... i just couldn't wait for her to shut up. i definitely cannot see her in that role.
"It was like being high when you reach those high notes."
~Bernadette Peters
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68.9.252.x | posted: 7/26/2004 at 7:40:19 PM ET
You can rent AGYG on dvd? is it the one with Bernadette in it?
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| posted: 7/26/2004 at 7:48:45 PM ET
I believe it is the movie from the 50s.
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5/3/2002 | posted: 7/26/2004 at 8:09:27 PM ET
The 1950 movie with Betty Hutton and Howard Keel. The best thing about that video/DVD is that they include the footage that Judy Garland shot as Annie before M-G-M fired her from the movie and the studio. She's kind of a wreck, but the performance looks intriguing. I still remember Michael Musto saying she looked like a crack addict with a Joan Of Arc haircut.
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i thought that the footage of judy garland was kind of sad actually. it was depressing how much of a mess she was. 
damn, she's cool.
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I agree, but somehow there's more than a glimmer of what "might have been" there. She certainly looked startlingly contemporary or European almost, as opposed to the very schticky, vaudevillian, Hutton. How about a left-bank Parisian Annie Oakley? The contrast between b&w and technicolor may have contributed to the totally different atmospheres.
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| posted: 7/26/2004 at 9:55:33 PM ET
lol I actually refuse to watch that movie just because I'm such a Judy Garland fan.
I know she was a mess at the time, but I feel bad that they fired her for having a problem that they (in a sense) caused. So, because I wish that it would have been her in the film, I will not watch Betty Hutton in that movie. lol I'm so stubborn sometimes.
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was the problem drugs? i don't know too much about Judy Garland.
"It was like being high when you reach those high notes."
~Bernadette Peters
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Many things: certainly an extreme addiction to prescription pills (amphetamines and barbituites), some kind of alcohol problem, probably various genetic personality disorders (almost surely bipolar). All of that, plus a work and family environment that was exploitative, to put it mildly, led to one big huge tragedy of a life.
| BPfan11
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My uncle actually used to be a jazz musician and talked a long time with her one night and she told him a lot of interesting stuff. She definitely had an addiction to prescription pills... the directors, etc. would keep her up late with caffiene pills and such, and then they'd give her sleeping pills so she could get to sleep, only to give her more pills a few hours later to wake her up to work again... a big circle. She said some other things to him too, but I don't remember exactly what he told me and don't want to give any false info. I can ask my uncle again if you're really interested it.
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5/3/2002 | posted: 7/26/2004 at 11:26:10 PM ET
Yes, always interested in Judy Garland info.
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Okay, sorry this took so long, but I just spoke to my uncle the other day. So, the Judy Garland story:
In 1968, my uncle was playing in a jazz band and they had a 6 week gig at some club in Asbury Park, NJ. Toward the end of their gig, Judy Garland had a 1 week gig at the Garden State Arts Center, but she ended up going about a month early (maybe for a family vaca? idk). So she ended up spending a lot of time at the club my uncle was at, and got to know the band members fairly well. One night after a performance Judy Garland had attended, my uncle and the other band members were leaving the club (I know this sounds a little far-fetched, but I swear, it’s true!), it was around 2am, and they saw someone lying on the sidewalk and walked up to the person…Judy Garland. So they helped a very drunk Judy up and, since she knew them from the club, she agreed to go with them to a coffeehouse that was open 24/7.
So once at the coffeehouse, she told them how, after the Wizard of Oz, she was doing a bunch of Andy Hardy movies, and enjoying all the fame. However, along with the fame came countless promo events, radio appearances, etc., and the people in charge of her schedule would give her sleeping pills at 2 or 3 am, then they’d give her different pills at 6am to wake her up for more appearances… thus developing a drug addiction. It’s really sad that she was only a teenager and caught up in the midst of enjoying her success, and certainly didn’t realize all the harm this was causing on her.
I think it is also fairly well known that she was an alcoholic. My uncle said that he hotel (which they were both staying at during this time in NJ) would have to open its bar at 10am so she could buy a bottle of vodka, and that her diet consisted of salad, vodka, and pills. (though that may have been only during that short time) Anyway, one night that she was performing at the GS arts center, she was so drunk that she fell off the stage. People helped her get back up and she kept performing, only to fall again a few minutes later. People started to walk out, and I guess she never really performed after that. It’s really a tragedy when you think of what a talent she was. In her performances at the GS arts center when she wasn’t under the influence, she was supposedly wonderful. It’s crazy what the pressures of showbiz can do to you, or in this case, not necessarily the pressures, but how people can use you….making you fall asleep/wake up exactly when they need you to, regardless of its long term effects.
Anyway, hope you find that interesting! There were more details and more stories, but that was the main gist of it.
One side note though: her daughter, Lorna, who was 16 at the time and according to my uncle, quite a character, opened for her some nights and supposedly wasn’t a bad singer either. She somehow got herself in a position where my uncle ended up helping her learn an entire opening act in less than an hour… the story was something like, Judy didn’t like the song she had planned, so the director told her to sing “do you know the way to san jose” instead, and she of course said she knew the song (although she had never heard it before and didn’t know the lyrics or anything) and had to appear on stage in a few hours…
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