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 Rose
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| posted: 10/11/2003 at 2:47:55 AM ET
Did Bernadette ever go to acting school or have any offical training?
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Karen
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From what I've read, she attended a private high school which specialized in the performing arts, and as an adult studied with various acting, voice, and dance teachers and coaches. In other words, she's had very extensive training. In her Inside the Actor's Studio interview she described her first acting teacher David LeGrant as using a "method" type technique.
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 moljul
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| posted: 10/11/2003 at 12:07:51 PM ET
Her mother started her off in dancing and singing lessons at a very early age. She described more of that during the interview. I think her singing lessons were what started first at an extremely young age and dance lessons were not far after that. But yes, the acting lessons did seem to come around early teenage years maybe. Does that sound right to those of you who have seen it? And then yes, the high school and everything else Karen said. Though I've always gotten the impression that the dancing lessons may have stopped as a young adult. Don't know where I get that from.
Bernadette's career would certainly not be possible without a lot of training. She was obviously born with a lot of talent but if it isn't trained, the career usually isn't that good or it isn't very long.
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BroadwayBabyGal
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I do think she still could have had a career. She has real presence, and that can't be taught.
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 UCFGuardgirl
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It depends -- could Bernadette have had a dance career or been an actress, without training? Possibly. But could she have been a singer without any training? No, I don't think so.
I remember reading Julie Andrews' biography, and one thing she mentioned at length (in the beginning chapters) was that yes, she was born with a LOT of talent (by the age of 5 she could hit octaves above high-C) but she would have blown out her voice by the age of ten, had she not been given the proper training.
The problem with people who are born with EXTREME natural singing talent, like Julie Andrews or Bernadette Peters, is that they -- more than anyone else -- need the training. Without it, they will ruin their vocal cords at a very early age. It's sort of like plugging ten electrical devices into a single outlet and then turning them all on at the same time; they'll work great for about 5 minutes, and then the fuse blows.
(Not that moderately talented or non-innate singers shouldn't get training -- all of them should -- but because they're built to expell less wattage (to borrow from the above example) less power's being used in general, and the chance of the fuse blowing is slimmer. (Or else it'll take a LOT longer to happen.)
Anyway.
I thought Bernadette said tap lessons came first?
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"A pretty sunset, is there?" asked Nanny, coming up to the witch's room in one of her rare forays.
"She's sent the crows out to blind the guests coming for dinner," said Liir.
"What?"
"She's BLINDING THE GUESTS COMING FOR DINNER!"
"Well, that's one way to avoid having to dust, I suppose."
---------> WICKED, the Prequel to THE WIZARD OF OZ (Gregory Maguire)
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Broadwaybabe027
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Linda Eder didn't need any training...and she's the BEST singer I've ever heard!!!
Dana
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moljul
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| posted: 10/11/2003 at 11:11:12 PM ET
Do you mean to tell me Linda Eder has never taken a voice lesson in her life? I find that very hard to believe but I really don't know much about her. Does she have a college degree in voice or performance? I'm sure there is training in there some where. If not quite a bit of traning.
I agree with everyone that UCFGuardgirl said as that is what I was trying to say but not saying very well. Well except for the point about being a dancer without traning. That is a very specific art that has to be taught and to do it on a professional level requires a great deal of training.
The moment a parent notices a talent in a child, they should immediately get training. Even with loads of talent and great stage presence, no one knows how to bring all their talents together in a professional way to make a career. But then of course there is the importance of training to not ruin the talent too.
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 Christine-NYC
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| posted: 10/12/2003 at 12:32:06 PM ET
Just because Linda didn't take any singing lessons, doesn't mean she doesn't need them.
I agree, she has one of the greatest singing voices I have ever heard, but she is still relatively young. Who's to say that in 10 years she won't have blown out her vocal chords?
People like Bernadette Peters (55), Aretha Franklin (61) or Barbra Streisand (61), are people who have had vocal training to go along with their natural talent, and that is why they can still sing.
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What type of dance can Bernadette do?
I know she can tap dance but has she ever had ballet or modern jazz lessons?
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BrOaDwAy18
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I don't know much about Linda Eder, but I do know that once most people get into show business and begin using their voice regularly, they usually get some type of singing coach to keep them in vocal shape...is it possible she has one?
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 Broadwaybaby17
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Alabama | posted: 10/12/2003 at 4:26:11 PM ET
I would find it hard to believe that anyone on Broadway has gone without vocal training. You HAVE to have training. It doesn't mean that you needed the training to be talented, it just means that you need the training to learn how to sing without damaging your voice and learning how to perfect your technique and such. I'm a musical theatre major and I don't know anyone that's a musical theatre major that doesn't train in voice. We wouldn't graduate. So therefore I find it very,very hard to believe that Linda Eder or any other singer like that has never taken voice lessons.
Bump it with a trumpet!
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UCFGuardgirl
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Is there perhaps a Linda Eder site or a message board or something where we can clear this up, once and for all? Because I'm curious, myself. (Mainly, I just don't see how a person can be a professional, perform 8 shows a week in ANY show without getting training in proper vocal technique. Can you imagine what would have happened to Bernadette's vocal chords after SONG AND DANCE?)
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"A pretty sunset, is there?" asked Nanny, coming up to the witch's room in one of her rare forays.
"She's sent the crows out to blind the guests coming for dinner," said Liir.
"What?"
"She's BLINDING THE GUESTS COMING FOR DINNER!"
"Well, that's one way to avoid having to dust, I suppose."
---------> WICKED, the Prequel to THE WIZARD OF OZ (Gregory Maguire)
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Christine-NYC
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| posted: 10/12/2003 at 4:58:19 PM ET
http://www.lindaeder.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
LOL I am a member on that forum. I'll go ask them now, but there's the link for anyone that wants to check the responses.
**Editing this post to tell you that the name of the thread is "Linda-Does She have vocal training"**
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moljul
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| posted: 10/12/2003 at 5:55:45 PM ET
Thanks. The posts are interesting. I can't believe she is not using the expertise of a professional voice teacher. I hope she isn't ruining her voice. So often the effects don't show up for many years.
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Christine-NYC
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| posted: 10/12/2003 at 7:48:08 PM ET
You know what, here's a more direct link to the thread. 
http://www.lindaeder.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=004364
I didn't really believe that she wasn't using any professional vocal training either; but she posted there herself and said she doesn't.  It would be a shame if something happened to her voice because it isn't trained correctly.
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Broadwaybaby17
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Well all she said was that she didn't take private lessons. She did say that she had a good choir director that pointed her down the right path. Honestly, I've taken from a lot of different people and I understand her frustration with the people who get you no where, i.e. just singing scales and such. As long as you've had some training to learn how to sing properly than you are ok. Now if she had just sang without ever learning in the first place, then we would have a problem, but I'm sure that her choir teacher taught her the proper way to sing, as mine did.
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