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 SingOutAnnie
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Bradenton/Sarasota, FLA | posted: 8/24/2005 at 1:53:08 PM ET
I was watching a TCM special about Joan Crawford the other night, in which it said Crawford was only 5 feet tall. I simply could not imagine it, because she looked so tall and fearsome in so many roles.
The illusions created, especially in theater, are fascinating to me.
Has Bernadette ever done boozy in a role before?
| Karen
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5/3/2002 | posted: 8/24/2005 at 4:02:42 PM ET
Other than Mabel Normand, nothing is coming to mind immediately.
| SingOutAnnie
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Bradenton/Sarasota, FLA | posted: 8/24/2005 at 4:08:56 PM ET
Duh. 
|  ANH
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| posted: 8/24/2005 at 5:50:55 PM ET
Karen, I agree with you that at the end of the play, the couple moves on to a different fiction. Absolutely. However, I think Martha comes to "reality" with her current fiction, and then enters a different game, or reality. I think her vulnerabilities wear her down, and once she faces them, she has nothing left to do except play into a different game. She is no longer strong enough to face any type of reality that might have existed in her past fictional being. Therefore, the only way for her to go on is to face the truth behind her existence and, ironically, slip back into another fiction. The roles between husband and wife have switched at the end, I think. Where George was once the player in the game, he has now become the game master, with his wife as his pawn. That is the only way for them to survive. To me, it's all about manipulation (of self AND others), and dealing with (or rather supressing) one's emotional side and vulnerabilities and faults. I do not think there is a specifically "sinister" element, although I understand how it can be construed in such a manner.
| Karen
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5/3/2002 | posted: 8/24/2005 at 6:24:51 PM ET
I see what you mean. That's a very helpful way of thinking about it.
| Anonymous
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Kathleen Turner is at least 5'7". That's pretty tall. And I really don't think height has anything to do with anything. Some of the most formidable people you'll ever meet are small. And Bernadette may be small, but she's solid, not scrawny. She's much more of a Martha than a Honey.
|  TalkinLoud
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I'm pretty sure Kathleen Turner is no taller than 5'5". I'm 5'8", and she was much shorter than me at the stage door. Anyways, it doesn't really matter! I love when tiny people have the ability to take the entire stage by storm, making it seem as though they are 10 feet tall! Better than a tall person appearing short, now isn't it! haha! =-)
Izzy
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| SingOutAnnie
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Bradenton/Sarasota, FLA | posted: 8/25/2005 at 9:20:46 AM ET
That's why I was so stunned to see Bernadette outside the Shubert stage door the first time I saw "Gypsy." Her powerful Rose never felted diminutive. The magic of performance and theater.
|  cuteoperaboi
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I could TOTALLY see Bernadette playing Martha....it would be completely different...Kathleen is amazing though it would be hard to top that.
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