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Bwaybaby
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posted: 6/25/2003 at 8:45:58 PM ET
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Welcome to the board

Christine-NYC
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Fav. BP Show: Gypsy
Fav. BP Character: Marie (insert last name) lol There's a few
Fav. BP CD: Bernadette Peters Loves Rogers and Hammerstein

posted: 6/25/2003 at 10:05:33 PM ET
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awww, that's so cute about the little girl....I can just picture it.

Was Bernadette wearing the black strappy shoes that add like 4 inches to her height? Last time I saw her she was wearing those and I thought they were so adorable.

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posted: 6/26/2003 at 11:34:50 PM ET
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Thanks!!

Yeah, they were kinda strappy...they were black with a black strap over her toes and then a thicker diagonal strap going up her foot, with another strap around the ankle...they were super high, probably about 4 1/2 inches...but SOOO CUTE, I couldn't resist complimenting them, even though I just recently realized that after such a performance I only commented on her shoes! LOL...oh well, she seemed to appreciate it!

The little girl thing was adorable. Bernadette was signing things for other people as she was talking, and I could tell she thought it was totally adorable because she kept nodding and saying things like "I love that song too!" and finally when the little girls parents decided she was probably bothering her and tried to drag her away, Bernadette said she wasn't bothered at all and thanked them for coming before doing a little sing-songy "Good-byyyye!". So nice!!

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omg! i luv bernadette sooooooooooooooo much!!! u have no idea! i wish she would adopt me!!!!! (i'm 13). but really, she's like my favorite person ever. i saw Gypsy, and now i realize wut an amazing amazing person she is!!!!! in fact, i'm saving up all my money 2 go back 2 NYC (i live in Indiana) to see Gypsy again & meet her again. i hope i can do it..........

i bought her concert video, a Broadway Barks puppy, Annie get your gun CD, and the Rodgers and Hammerstein CD. here's my great story, but 1st i have some questions: is bernadette's birthday really FEBRUARY 28th???????? b/c if it is, that is the coolest thing ever. b/c that is my birthday 2!!!!!!!!!!! also, how do u get 2 go backstage after a performance? thanx!!!!!!! plz help. also, do you know if she replies 2 fan mail? because i sent her an e-mail via another website's link to her e-mail address....? thnx for ne &all help!!! here's my story:

after we saw Gypsy in our first night in NYC, i was amazed. we couldn't get thru the crowd 2 c her so the next day (saturday) we went back an hour early 2 get behind the barricades so we'd b sure 2 c her. i got her autograph on the broadway barks puppy & then john dossett came out! wow, he wuz cool. & he signed my playbill! then bernadette came out & she is the most amazing person!

she came over 2 our side & signed my playbill. i wuz kinda nervous so i didn't know wut 2 say, but my dad said, "oh, my daughter just loves you and the show!" she smiled & looked right in my eyes & said "hi, how r u?" i wuz like, "fine!" i wishi had said more, but i didn't want 2 act like a moron....

newayz, we were walking in shubert alley on our last night in NYC and i said, "dad, can we stay again?" he said, "sure" but my sister and mom went back to the hotel. we waited, and i wuz far back so i couldn't talk 2 her but i could see her very well. she went 2 the other side, & evry1 on our side left except for me, my dad, and another man.

the man talked 2 her bodyguard/driver & said "can u tell her that so-and-so (his name, i forget) is here? i worked on a movie w/ her 10 years ago." when she wuz done w/ the other side, she came bak over 2 ours!!!! she talked 2 the guy & then she looked over @ me & said, "oh, you're bak!" i wuz like "yeah" & i can't remember evrything i said cuz i wuz so nervous, but my dad wuz like "yeah, she's just such a big fan & she luvs u so much", etc.

it wuz the best way 2 end my trip 2 the best city in the world! well, i have 2 go but please help with answers 2 my questions if u can. i hope this fits! thnx

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posted: 6/29/2003 at 11:05:13 PM ET
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Hi--

WOW! Nice to see someone with so much enthusiasm!! Yes her birthday is Feb 28th. She usually doesn't respond to fan mail due to lack of time but I do know she really enjoys reading the letters and really appreciates them. Glad you had such a good time at the show

Christine-NYC
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Fav. BP Song: With So Little to be Sure Of
Fav. BP Show: Gypsy
Fav. BP Character: Marie (insert last name) lol There's a few
Fav. BP CD: Bernadette Peters Loves Rogers and Hammerstein

posted: 6/29/2003 at 11:52:13 PM ET
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How nice that she remembered you. That must have been exciting for you.

<3CMH<3

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itz me again, the girl with her b'day & all. thanx for answering my questions! wow, i still can't believe we share a birthday! especially since my hair is very, very similar to hers. yes, it wuz very exciting for me, i wuz jumping up & down back at the hotel room! sorry, sometimes i get a little too excited, and well, anyway.... i have another question. how exactly does one get backstage? i'm talking about at a Gypsy performance, because that's the most likely way i'll see another one of her performances. thank you for your help! i luv this website!

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posted: 6/30/2003 at 7:55:07 PM ET
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Hey--

In most cases the only way to get backstage is if you know someone involved with the show( or someone who knows someone involved with the show LOL) I'm not saying that's the ONLY way to get backstage but that's how most people get backstage. Bernadette is very patient with everyone at the stage door ( as is the rest of the cast).They'll all usually stay until they've signed everyone's things. Plus, the Shubert's backstage isn't THAT big ( not like the Marquis is) and it tends to get pretty crowded back there at times. So sometimes you're just better off waiting outside

BroadwayBernadetteLover
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posted: 7/1/2003 at 10:40:20 PM ET
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me again....... got an account now! lol. also, though, i saw this one man get to go backstage to see her & meet her and all because he paid $100 to Broadway Barks. i don't want this getting around too much though, because if this happens a lot, mayb she'll feel like her privacy is being invaded or something......

I so wish I was Bernadette's daughter! Sorry, wishful thinking again...... but we do have the SAME BIRTHDAY!!!! February 28 is the bestest day ever!!!! by the way, BROADWAY ROX!!!!!! =)

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posted: 7/1/2003 at 11:09:41 PM ET
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Hi There--

Its really nice of you to want to tell people about how the man you spoke about got backstage, however, I think much more people than you realize read this forum so even if it wasn't your intentions-- this will get around. I just hope people who read this use their judgment and decide to donate $100 to Broadway Barks because it is such a wonderful cause and not because they may get backstage.

BroadwayBaby123
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posted: 7/2/2003 at 12:19:50 AM ET
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I think the way the Broadway Barks people handled that situation was incredibly creepy. Many people shell out tons of money to bring their families (often times the kids are huge fans of Bernadette) and just don't have sufficent funds to donate more money, as good as a cause may be. I think it's terrible to reward people who have cash lying around and punish those whose children saved up money in their piggy banks or deducted from their allowance or spent Saturdays doing chores so they could earn enough money for a single ticket.

What is this teaching us? We keep telling kids, "money doesn't buy happiness". Well how do you think it makes little Sally Jones from the tiny town feel when she sees other people handing over money and then being ushered backstage? Confused and saddened, that's how.

Bwaybaby, I don't think this is an issue of people deciding to donate money to get backstage. This is an issue of morals and ethics. It's awkward enough to have the children in the play standing outside begging for money from people who just want to see their favorite star. I saw it with my own eyes. The parents and even people without kids feel totally obligated to buy something! Now add in that the people who do donate money get special privledges? Not okay.

I really think they need to find a more tasteful way to gather donations for what I do think is a fabulous charity. If I were a Broadway Barks rep, I would have told Bernadette to come OUTSIDE and discuss this with the person who so generously offered money. That way it wouldn't be as if there is some secret alliance of Broadway Stars schmoozing with rich people while Smalltown Americans wait outside with their wrinkled programs and Sharpies.

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posted: 7/2/2003 at 12:39:27 AM ET
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Wow, ok first of all...you are not even certain of all the circumstances of this situation. Neither am I. The only people who are are Bernadette and the gentleman. I don't think anyone is being "punished". You do not know if this man is rich or maybe, just maybe he isn't but offered a hundred of his own dollars to a charity...and maybe, just maybe Bernadette was so touched by this that she invited the man to come backstage. Regardless, it was her decision...if she wants to have someone come backstage and meet her then its up to her.She shouldn't be reprimanded for something like that.

I don't see anything wrong with the kids from the show helping out with Broadway Barks..they're not forced into it and they're helping for an EXCELLENT cause! Sorta funny because don't MILLIONS of children do this around the country for school charities and Girlscouts??

So, you asked: What is this teaching children?

Well, specifically the kids in Gypsy--its teaching them that even though they are young they can help make the life of another living creature better.

What is this teaching the children outside waiting to see Bernadette?

Maybe its teaching them that people, no matter how famous they are or how busy they are with their jobs, are willing to put their time into a charity. Or that there are people out there that care enough about these animals that they're making the decision to donate their own hard earned cash to the chairty and wow, they even get something really nice in return for it. Perhaps it will encourage children to want to donate thier time, money or anything to a local chairty.Even those children who can not afford to donate money could get a lesson out of this-- like maybe THIS is the reason why they call Bernadette their idol and that not only is she a great performer but she has a big heart.

Is that such a bad thing to have children believe?

Its not like they(at Gypsy) are out there saying "give us $20- or else" they're giving you something in return...stuff you most likely wouldn't be able to get anywhere else. If people feel uncomfortable with that then they don't have to stand at the stage door. Bernadette takes HER time to come out every night and sign autographs for people and take pictures with people. Not because she has to but because she wants to. So I don't think its such a horrible thing for her to ask people if they want to help with a wonderful cause while they are all waiting there to get something FREE out of her. And like I said before, just because people do not have the money to get backstage (if that is even what really happened) then they have the opportunity to meet her for FREE outside of the stage door.

I was going to private message all of this to you but I don't think its fair how you're giving these children and this charity a bad name and making it seem so horrible!

Please, I don't want to argue about this on the board. Feel free to private message me.

jmslsu01
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posted: 7/2/2003 at 8:46:21 AM ET
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Don't they auction something similar to this for Broadway Cares? It's not that unusual-I know at one time,a walk on part for a show-Les Miserables?-was auctioned,and that must have been a pretty penny.

Jenn

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posted: 7/2/2003 at 11:48:07 AM ET
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I would private message you; however, I feel it's appropriate to discuss this with other people on the board. After all, the people who read this will be the people who will be donating money, right? Please don't feel as if I'm trying to be mean to anyone for the sake of being mean, or give anyone a bad name. I'm simply expressing my opinion on a subject that I feel is relevant to everyone who reads this.

First of all, I in no shape or form said that the charity ITSELF was bad. Nor did I say the children who volunteered to help were bad. I have two dogs, both of which came from a NYC shelter. I am in no place to reprimand ANYONE helping these wonderful animals. In fact, I most definitely support Bernadette and anyone who donates their time for such a cause. It's simply the WAY they decided to collect these donations that troubles me. Your post was long so I'm going to address it piece by piece.

I am fully aware that I do not know the circumstances of this instance, but I think it's perfectly okay to discuss what was said here as this is a public forum. If it's not true, so be it. At least we all had a meaningful discussion (meaning one that is not two pages on fake eyelashes LOL.) Now, I understand this was Bernadette's decision to let this man come backstage and meet her. I am absolutely positive that she did not realize at the time how some people may interpret that, otherwise I believe she would not have done this. In any case, no matter what she believes, I am POSITIVE that she did not mean to offend anyone. Plus, she isn't out there selling the stuff personally. Obviously one the reps must have run backstage and informed her of this. So maybe it's not her decision!

The kids in the show, I am aware, are not forced to do this. It is something they choose to do, like Girlscouts, as you pointed out. This is going to sound extremely skeptical, but last time I checked, when were the kids in Girlscouts and the kids washing cars in the school parking lot working for a huge celebrity? When were they being asked to sign autographs at the same time? I am sure they definitely feel good for helping Broadway Barks, but I think we'd all be lying if we said these kids don't get just a tiiinnny thrill from standing out there with people going crazy over them and wanting to talk to them at the same time? I for one would be VERY VERY VERY impressed if these kids got together and went to shelter and played the dogs or took them on walks, or talked to the kids that went to the show and encouraged them to do that.

By the way, I think that the charity is the reasons the parents like Bernadette. To a young child, the only thing they realize is that they are BUYING something for $20. Wherever the money is going, it just looks like a regular "We're selling something, buy it..." situation. It would take a good parent to first explain to their kid that the money is going to a charity before buying something for their child. From what I saw, it's mostly the kids going "I want the puppy." and the parent handing over 20 dollars. Which is definitely the parents own fault.

Bernadette is a pretty rare celebrity for coming out and signing those tons of autographs, but I really do wish she had been the one out there selling the stuff from Broadway Barks. Why isn't she there? It's her charity! She would have been able to explain it better than anyone else. She isn't really the one doing the asking.

There would have been a couple ways that this could be done better in my opinion. Maybe there could have been an ad in the Playbill with all the Broadway Barks information on it. Then, maybe right next to the souveneir table, there could have been people sitting there who can explain everything in detail since it wouldn't be as hectic as it would outside. They could be the ones selling the stuff. There could even be an announcement before the show begins to inform everyone of this table! And when Bernadette comes out, she could have said "The table it STILL open!!!" All of those are perfectly fine. This method also ads to the organization aspect. The ad in Playbill would probably draw more people to the Broadway Barks event as well, since everything would be written down.






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Fav. BP CD: Bernadette Peters Loves Rogers and Hammerstein

posted: 7/2/2003 at 2:26:08 PM ET
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I really do wish she had been the one out there selling the stuff from Broadway Barks. Why isn't she there? It's her charity!

UMMM, maybe because she's backstage signing more and more stuff for the other cast members to sell out there. She doesn't have to spend her time after performing for over 2 hours straight, signing things right then and there to be sold at a stage door (and just think, they do that every night and twice on Wednesdays and Saturdays)!

And how dare you make it seem that the children in that show are not as good as a child (say in the girlscouts) just because they get recognized more! They work very hard and are donating their time to help raise money for a wonderful cause. They're not doing it for some ego trip! And let me tell you something that I witnessed first hand; they do talk to the children that have seen the show and wait outside the stage door. They ask them questions, they talk about what it's like to work in show business. When would you like them to go to the shelters and walk the dogs? Perhaps somewhere between school, homework, performing, rehearsing, and sleeping? Most children their age do not have a job! Man, they must have some amazing energy if they could do all that and then go walk a strange dog (their parents would just love that).

Maybe the parents are at fault for spending $20 on a toy and not exaplaining to the children that it's for charity. Then again, how many children (under the age of 7 or 8 ) can really grasp what a charity is?
I'll tell you what's worse, is the adults who bring children to see a show like Gypsy and then force those children to stand at a stage door and look cute and ask for autographs because it's the adults themselves who are fans of Bernadette, and they assume she'll be more prone to sign for children! Believe me, I've seen it quite a few times (especially at Gypsy).

<3CMH<3

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I'm not going to argue with you over what her personal post-show agenda is, but unless you have proof that she is fact, standing back there frantically signing things, I think it's safe to say that she probably does the majority of the signing at a less hectic time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

When did I ever say that that the "normal" kids are better than children who are involved in show business? Never. I stated that from my experience, it's not uncommon for kids to get an unorthodox thrill and excitement out of being asked for autographs and getting lots of attention. Can we please not pretend that CERTAIN children are made to feel superior by their parents, teachers, people they work with because of the kind of things are going through? Not to say this is the case for Gypsy, but when I was younger and spent a lot of time doing ballet, I witnessed the teachers, parents, everyone, praising these kids left and right and telling them how special, how lucky, how everyone wants to be them and be in their shoes. It even shone through when they were being DISCIPLINED, for crying out loud! "You have this chance that a MILLION kids would dream for, don't blow it by not staying on top of your schoolwork!" I think we're all putting up the "we don't want to believe it so we'll pretend it's not happening" filter when we say that a lot of kids in show business DO have the temptation to let their egos out of hand. Just turn on the TV! In interviews, these kids are almost always talking and schmoozing like mini-adults, complete with a Starbucks in their 9 year old hands! This is not to say all kids in show business are like this, and you see it more with children in movies, but I think it's very naive to pretend like this doesn't happen.

I understand what you mean about the parents forcing their kids to ask for autographs because they come off "cute". It's terrible, but what are you gonna do? The parents are at fault for this. Let's not get off the subject, though, and get in a war over which is worse.

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