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Scottie
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A friend has just sent me an email with some news about a film of GYPSY. I asked him the source - and he says there's no source attached but it comes from a fan forum www.sayhey.co.uk Is this old news? You may have heard it already for all I know but if true how awful. I mean, much as I like Catherine but really!
Here is what my friend sent to me ...
Oh. My. Gawd. Can't someone suggest Bernie P?
......................read on!
"Chicago director Rob Marshall and star Catherine Zeta-Jones will
reteam for an adaptation of Steve Sondheim's Broadway musical Gypsy
for The Weinstein Company:
Now the rumor is out and hot that the Weinstein Company is close on the heels of director Rob Marshall for a movie version of the show
about the evolution of that famous stripper - Gypsy Rose Lee - and her infamous stage mother, Rose." ....
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
|  moljul
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| posted: 6/13/2006 at 1:22:10 PM ET
Scottie, Check the Bernadette Peters news for a link to the article.
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
| Scottie
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Thanks, moljul. I just checked. What utterly crazy casting - Catherine as Mama Rose? One of the strippers - yes, but Mama Rose???
Why don't the producers just watch a video of Bernadette's Tony Award show performance of Rose's Turn - that would clinch it!
But I suppose it's all about money and box office returns and Oscar winners etc. etc.
And youth ....with no regard for the character's age. I mean, Catherine would almost be portraying someone who is closer to her "old man's" age rather than her own. I'm speechless ... almost.
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
| moljul
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| posted: 6/13/2006 at 2:08:00 PM ET
Actually Scottie, Catherine is probably the right age for the role. It is usually cast older and matronly (though not in Bernadette's case). Even though Bernadette was the oldest actress to play Rose on Broadway she was the youngest looking and much more believable in the early scenes. If you think about it, Rose has VERY young children at the beginning of the play (4-7 year olds) and teenage daughters at the end. They would only have to age her slightly to show this 10 year age difference.
I don't know how I feel about her as Rose but I do know that she is the right age, particularly on screen when age is more apparent.
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
|  Jean
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Let's see--we're getting very excited about a rumor in the New York POST written by that eminent know-it-all--- Liz Smith!
But seriously, folks: Even if this movie should come about, I doubt that Bernadette would be considered for it. A $8 (?) million dollar theater endeavor, yes; a multi-million movie, afraid not. Realistically, she does not have that kind of movie career.
Oh lord, I just know this will get me shunned...
| Scottie
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Actually Scottie, Catherine is probably the right age for the role. It is usually cast older and matronly (though not in Bernadette's case).
Good point and you are right of course but in a perfect world this role would go to someone who could really cut the mustard as far as acting and singing is concerned - regardless of whether she had a high-profile in Hollywood or the right connections. Don't get me wrong, I like the very lovely and talented Catherine Z. and wish her well but surely the "meat" of the play isn't about the mother of a 4 or 7 year old? It's about an older woman who feels that she has given her up life to get something going for her kids and who realises now they have "dumped" her and moved on that there is very little left for herself. I don't get the impression she is an early forty something who still possibly has the world at her feet. Doesn't 'Rose's Turn' suggest that this character feels that she has nothing left to aim for, no place to go and and that even if she had - there's very little time left anyway?
And here's an interesting thought (at least I think so,) when that show was written women were actually settling into old-age when they were around their mid- 40's or so, whereas now it is generally held that "50 is the new 30 and 60 is the new 40" etc. so it would actually make more sense to have an older actress playing Rose. It's a long time since the first attempt at GYPSY on screen and modern day cinema-going audiences will probably wonder why a 40 something mother of teenage children is creating such a fuss at the end of the show. You can be sure that when/if Ms Zeta-Jones gets to do Rose's Turn she will be made to look a lot older than the original Rose. Just a thought...
And ... something else has occured to me that is perhaps in an odd way relevant to this 'age' thing (but written with tongue firmly in cheek)...It Runs In The Family, where Michael Douglas (Mr Zeta-Jones) has his own real-life mother, father, and son act in the the film but has Bernadette play his wife. Was Catherine away visiting her folks in the Welsh valleys or did Michael realise that she would look rather too young to be the mother of teenage Cameron Douglas?
as Bernadette says....just keep moving on.....
| Karen
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Catherine Zeta-Jones is 35? She seems so much older. I suspect some fiddling around with a birthdate is going on there.
What's more, I will boldly predict this film will never be made. The movie musical boom failed to materialize. After Chicago, a bunch of them were announced. A few were actually made, but they tanked and I think everyone realized the mass audience simply wasn't there. Just my opinion.
| jmslsu01
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Moulin Rouge and Chicago were flukes and not indicative of a change in moviegoing tastes. Other movie musical mentions have been announced-Damn Yankees and Into the Woods from eons ago among them-and nothing has come of them. With the dismal notices, critically and financially, of Rent, The Producers, and The Phantom of the Opera, I doubt we'll see many of these movie musicals actually made. How the Hairspray movie musical will be received is up in the air.
Dreamgirls is even more immediate-that's coming out in December.
Jenn
|  Christine-NYC
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| posted: 6/14/2006 at 12:03:48 AM ET
I will not shun you for that Jean. I happen to agree.
I adore Bernadette, and she is so talanted, but her [film] career at this point is more "Artisitc" movies rather than blockbusters.
When Broadway Producers want to make back their money and make a profit, they call Bernadette Peters.
When Movie Producers want to do that, they call Catherine Zeta Jones.
It's nothing against Bernadette. It's just that her name alone is not a draw for main movie audiences. It's a draw for her fans and theatre fans.
As much as I enjoy the slow attempt to bring Movie Musicals back, I doubt that Gypsy will be making a return. There's already 2 well known American versions and even 2 (that I know of) foreign versions.
I say make Sweeney Todd a motion picture and have Bernadette play Mrs. Lovett. 
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| Jean
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Ahh, Liz, Liz, keep on this story!:
""SO MY very good friend the playwright Arthur Laurents called to advise that Harvey Weinstein "doesn't have the rights" to his property "Gypsy." (Arthur wrote the book for this classic of all classic musicals.) Well, I didn't say Harvey had the rights. Just that he had dreams of producing a "Gypsy" movie, with Rob Marshall at the helm. And he does have such a dream. No doubt there is many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip, and there would be lots of talks with Arthur, with Stephen Sondheim and with the estate of the late Jule Styne before this could come to fruition.
But nothing can stop Mr. Weinstein from dreaming big.""
from the Liz Smith column, NY Post, June 16, 2006
| jmslsu01
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Just that he had dreams of producing a "Gypsy" movie, with Rob Marshall at the helm. And he does have such a dream.
Well, damn, I have dreams of retiring as a billionaire in my late thirties and buying my own island nation in the Pacific.
Jenn
| Karen
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LOL! Perfect.
| Jean
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From today's New York Post:
"By LIZ SMITH
June 30, 2006 -- 'FOR ME! For me! For Meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!"
So go the final lyrics, blasted out by Mama Rose, in the penultimate moments of the greatest musical ever, "Gypsy."
WE TOLD you a little while back that Harvey Weinstein had a dream - to remake "Gypsy" on the big screen. His dream included Catherine Zeta-Jones as Rose Hovick, who inadvertently pushed one daughter, Dainty June (later June Havoc), away from her, and thrust the other into burlesque and world fame as Gypsy Rose Lee. Well, even though Harvey doesn't own the rights to the Arthur Laurents/Stephen Sondheim/Jule Styne classic - as Mr. Laurents was quick to point out - HW continues to dream. Big-time.
Now I hear that Zeta-Jones is not the only woman on the list to play Rose.
Oh, shall I drag this out further? Barbra Streisand, folks. The Legend herself. Are you kvelling? Are you plotzing? Are your knees like buttah?
Given her own personal issues with a mother who did not push her or encourage her - hence Barbra's need to excel, excel, excel - Streisand could bring something quite devastating to the mama role of all time. Unless she wants to tackle "Medea."
No more "Fockers" - sing out, Barbra! "
With Liz Smith all over this story, it looks to be a very interesting Summer
| moljul
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| posted: 6/30/2006 at 4:06:55 PM ET
Well that just killed my interest in the movie version.
"I'm one star away from Dolly Parton ... and Raymond Massey is between us. I hope we don't suffocate him." Bernadette Peters receiving her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, April 24, 1987
| stella985
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I highly doubt this will happen. I LOVE Barbra but I don't see her doing this. She really doesn't like doing things where other people are in charge (yes, she did Meet the Fockers but that was just for fun and we all know she probably got her way on whatever she wanted). I can't see her being able to peacefully co-exhist with Harvey Weinstien. Plus, Harvey's power is sinking in Hollywood. And lastly, Barbra has never played a non- Jewish character. So, I really don't see it happening. Besides, no one can do anything without the rights...(however, Aruther Laurents wrote The Way We Were for Streisand)
| Jean
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From Michael Riedel's column in the NY Post today:
"Jersey Boys" isn't the only Broadway show that's captured Hollywood's attention. Weinstein has his eye on "Gypsy," arguably the greatest musical of all time. Rob Marshall ("Chicago") would direct, with either Meryl Streep or Barbra Streisand starring as Momma Rose and Catherine Zeta-Jones playing Rose's daughter, Gypsy Rose Lee. "
This is beginning to read, to me, like a press agent's plant, or a very slow "news" day.
I think they have it right on ATC, it'll never happen, at least this way.
I'm tired of this rumor anyway...
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